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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:37 pm    Post subject: Midnight Sun Reply with quote

stepheniemer.com wrote:
As some of you may have heard, my partial draft of Midnight Sun was illegally posted on the Internet and has since been virally distributed without my knowledge or permission or the knowledge or permission of my publisher.

I have a good idea of how the leak happened as there were very few copies of Midnight Sun that left my possession and each was unique. Due to little changes I made to the manuscript at different times, I can tell when each left my possession and to whom it was given. The manuscript that was illegally distributed on the Internet was given to trusted individuals for a good purpose. I have no comment beyond that as I believe that there was no malicious intent with the initial distribution.

I did not want my readers to experience Midnight Sun before it was completed, edited and published. I think it is important for everybody to understand that what happened was a huge violation of my rights as an author, not to mention me as a human being. As the author of the Twilight Saga, I control the copyright and it is up to the owner of the copyright to decide when the books should be made public; this is the same for musicians and filmmakers. Just because someone buys a book or movie or song, or gets a download off the Internet, doesn't mean that they own the right to reproduce and distribute it. Unfortunately, with the Internet, it is easy for people to obtain and share items that do not legally belong to them. No matter how this is done, it is still dishonest. This has been a very upsetting experience for me, but I hope it will at least leave my fans with a better understanding of copyright and the importance of artistic control.

So where does this leave Midnight Sun? My first feeling was that there was no way to continue. Writing isn't like math; in math, two plus two always equals four no matter what your mood is like. With writing, the way you feel changes everything. If I tried to write Midnight Sun now, in my current frame of mind, James would probably win and all the Cullens would die, which wouldn't dovetail too well with the original story. In any case, I feel too sad about what has happened to continue working on Midnight Sun, and so it is on hold indefinitely.

I'd rather my fans not read this version of Midnight Sun. It was only an incomplete draft; the writing is messy and flawed and full of mistakes. But how do I comment on this violation without driving more people to look for the illegal posting? It has taken me a while to decide how and if I could respond. But to end the confusion, I've decided to make the draft available here (at the end of this message on the Midnight Sun page). This way, my readers don't have to feel they have to make a sacrifice to stay honest. I hope this fragment gives you further insight into Edward's head and adds a new dimension to the Twilight story. That's what inspired me to write it in the first place.

I do want to take a moment and thank the wonderful fans who have been so supportive of me over the past three years. I cannot begin to tell you how much each of you means to me. I only hope this note will stop all the confusion and online speculation so that the Twilight universe can once again become the happy escape it used to be. After this incredibly busy year, I am now focusing on spending more time with my family and working on some other writing projects.

--Stephenie



here is a link to the MS partial draft that she has posted. (about 250 pages of the manuscript) http://stepheniemeyer.com/pdf/midnightsun_partialdraft2.pdf


First of all I am pissed. I was hoping and waiting for this book for a long time. I feel that whoever made their copy of the manuscript realize what they have done...( I also hope their name is made public so all the little twihards can harass them) they deserve all the punishment they can get.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, I'm also incredibly pissed off. She was still writing the book, for god's sake! You don't just go sending it off to people over the net. It's as moronic as the thought that, "Hey, we deserve to know what she's writing, and if I've got it, why not share it?"

I've heard of books finding their way on the net a day or two before their release, but I've NEVER heard of half an unfinished book being posted up. That's so cruel to the author, who's spending their days writing this. It completely disregards their feelings.

I think that there's going to be a LOT of angry Twilight fans. I didn't ever think I'd say this before, but poor Stephenie. This just isn't fair.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

She might get huge backlash because of this. People on amazon - who read the manuscripts for Twilight, New Moon and Eclipse - claimed how untalented an author was without the editing...

Poor Steph. I'm still reading the manuscript.

I don't think anyone's name should be made public and they should get attacked by thousands of peoplebecause they unleashed a book onto the net. It's just a book.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the same old boring Meyer book, but what pissed me off in the first three pages was that Stephenie decided to turn Jessica into an obsessed-in-herself bitch. Fine, she is a bit up herself, but she ISN'T a bitch. And Edward's dialogue is...

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ammy wrote:

I think that there's going to be a LOT of angry Twilight fans..


OK, I'm officially angry fan number 1!!!

And two, 'cause I've got too much anger for just one number.

WHOEVER THE HELL DID THIS, I WILL F*CKIN' KILL THEM!!!! THAT IS LIKE SOOO MEAN TO ALL OF THE PEOPLE WAITING FOR THAT BOOK!!!!

[For me, this was like another Midnighters.. Edwards POV! Whoa!]

And now I have to waste my morning downloading some f*ckin' adobe acrobat 9 thingy! AND it's raining, so I can't go outside and spraypaing things. Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry about the dubble posting adn all that, but that thing I wasted my morning with... yeah, it didn't work. So now if I ever want to read MS, it'll be through someone else's computer. [like Emma's . . . *hint hint*. . . ]

So now I'm uber depressed. Ugh.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read the manuscript... It has its moments, I think. But it quickly descended into a sort of craziness that became boring to read after a while, i.e. Edward talking about Bella's perfection. It's the inverse of Twilight. I also didn't really expect Edward to fall in love with her the way he did. Still, I don't have anything against it.

I think I'm going to be incredible lenient with this book (if it ever becomes one now...) because it's SO different from BD. This is Twilight when it first began. Everything was different and less fucked up back then. I like it. For half a year, I was obsessively in love with Twilight, so the return of something familiar and vaguely believable is nice. I might not adore the books now, but this is the original, you know? Plus, it's so rare that you get to see another POV like this one. It's amazing that we're actually reading it.

Izzy, I think Jessica may be ALMOST as superficial as she comes across in Edward's POV. He's a little biased. haha. But we've all known at least one girl like her in our lives, I think we can say.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow. that really sucks. I thought that was going to be interesting - just as a piece of literature if not as part of the Twilightverse. I mean it's the exact same story from another point of view - that doesn't happen very often and most authors are not patient enough to give it a try, and to stick to their original story without changing things. Even if it was badly written it was still going to be impressive in it's completion just for that reason.

that's ridiculously rude though. I agree with Ammy, a few days before actual release, sure, but before it's even finished? Geeze. Damn, now I have to relay this news to all my non-internet hip friends.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is just terrible! I'm glad the Stephenie has a good idea of who did it though. That person should feel so terrible for what they did, especially now that they've effectively canceled the publishing of the whole book. I almost hope that after this has died down, Midnight Sun could continue being written and actually get published, but I doubt it would happen. Even though I doubt I would buy it if it did become a whole book, just because I'm unhappy about how the whole series ended.
Although, from the comment about believing that the original intent of leaking the manuscript being non-malicious, I'd bet that the person who leaked it wasn't the one that spread it around. Still they should feel pretty darn bad about breaking someone's trust in such a huge way.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: Midnight Sun Reply with quote

Suz wrote:
I feel that whoever made their copy of the manuscript realize what they have done...( I also hope their name is made public so all the little twihards can harass them) they deserve all the punishment they can get.


i agree!! when i found out i was very mad!! sooooo very mad!! there really arent enough swear words in the world 2 describe it!!!!! the ppl who put that on the internet...they BETTER know what they did!

but its also stephanies fault 2- i mean i wouldntve read it anyway! i wouldve waited 4 the book like any other fan! i dont wanna waste time printing out 250 pages off the computer!

gaaah now i hate stephenie meyer! why the hell would she do this to her fans just because she wasnt in the "right mood" to right the story!!!! i think the right thing to do would be to finish it
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helyn-la wrote:
Sorry about the dubble posting adn all that, but that thing I wasted my morning with... yeah, it didn't work. So now if I ever want to read MS, it'll be through someone else's computer. [like Emma's . . . *hint hint*. . . ]


[Edit by Suz] Emizzle. There is no need for what you have typed in this post. We understand that you are mad but, you can do that by using normal type and not swearing. Using such large print can be offensive to others. I am warning you now. The next time such posts will be deleted.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found another copy, which must have been the original leak. So now I can read it, but that doesn't make the fact that it won't be published any less sad. I think, though, that MAYBE she'll decide to postpone the publishing . . . Not forever. But that's just a thought.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emizzle, why do you hate Stephenie? She's put up with everything that's happened - which is really worse for her than her fans - in an extremely graceful manner. From her interviews she's naturally media-savvy, unlike J.K. Rowling, but I have a newfound respect for her after reading that post.

She rocks!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am have been in a spiral with the Twilight series
When I read Twilight years ago, I adored it
I was an Edward fangirl and everything
Then New Moon came out, and I begrudgingly read it knowing that Edward was not going to be in it
And I feel for Jacob and grew to hate Bella and Edward's REALLY fast relationship
And then Eclipse came out and I liked that well enough (the parts with Jacob now being my favorite)
And BD was kind of the end-all for me as far as liking the series went
That and the hoard of fangirls and noobs coming in and slathering over Edward (that gets old after a while for me personally, and intelligently talking about preferences makes ones fangirling so much more effective, lol)

Now that this has all happened I am kind of stuck between the two extremes that I have been in with SMeyer

Part of me whats to shrug if off and say that I dont care and that for BD SMeyer deserves this

But the more humane part of me knows that this is wrong, and that she got completely cheated
So I will buck up and defend SMeyer in this respect
I am not even going to read the draft
I have faith that she will finish the book at some point
And if she redeems herself from BreakingDawn then I might defend her again
Who knows, right?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its pretty crappy what happened. I'm sure any author would really hate that. Postponing MS indefinitely was a good way to handle this, I think. Not only to prove that all this legal stuff and rights actually MATTERS and people shouldn't be so callous and internet-spreading, but because Meyer didn't force herself to write it. I mean, we all know what its like with the RPGs when we just aren't in the right mindframe. Our posts kinda die.

But an entire different POV novel like this? Her mind must be so... dead? I don't know what other word to use. Betrayed, maybe? Haha. Meyer would know how many fans would go against her for not writing it, but I really admire that she did that. That she didn't just complete it for the sake of it and do a complete half-ass job at it. It could of come off worse than BD. LOLZ! *Ahem* Sorry. It was needed. Yes? Hehe.

Anyway, I'm sure Meyer knows that she has fans rallying behind her as well. Although I still don't think death threats are needed. I mean, we all know what happens in the end, don't we? Hehehe. It would have been nice to have the completed, edited Midnight Sun... But threatening the people that did this? A tad extreme.

Anyhoo.. I haven't read it, mainly because I can't be bothered more than 'supporting' her or whatever. Yup, I'm a true fan, eh?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think postponing it indefinately was a great way to make th leaker feel bad--as they should--, as long as when she calms down a little she decides to publish it.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read it.
It actually would have probably been a pretty interesting book. It's not just Edwards POV, but you get little snippets of everyone else's as well. Jessica is a little brat, which I found amusing, and you get to see why some things happened the way they did, and little parts of the Twilight story that were just left out ...
But, at the same time I don't think I could read the whole book. The draft was 260-ish pages, and it didn't even reach to the part of the story where Bella finds out the Edward sparkles. And Edwards story is not that much different than Bella's - it's a lot of "Oh my God I'm so in love" kind of thing, like to the point where I would say that love at first sight does not exist, it's only lust. It makes me think less of Edward, because he is even more boring than I previously thought.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the contrary, I thought his POV made him seem slightly more interesting.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emizzle wrote:
Helyn-la wrote:
Sorry about the dubble posting adn all that, but that thing I wasted my morning with... yeah, it didn't work. So now if I ever want to read MS, it'll be through someone else's computer. [like Emma's . . . *hint hint*. . . ]


[Edit by Suz] Emizzle. There is no need for what you have typed in this post. We understand that you are mad but, you can do that by using normal type and not swearing. Using such large print can be offensive to others. I am warning you now. The next time such posts will be deleted.


ok sry it wont happen again
im sry im very new to these rules... Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Izzy_The_Goddess wrote:
Emizzle, why do you hate Stephenie? She's put up with everything that's happened - which is really worse for her than her fans - in an extremely graceful manner. From her interviews she's naturally media-savvy, unlike J.K. Rowling, but I have a newfound respect for her after reading that post.

She rocks!


{sry 4 double postind Razz}

ok well actually you're right.
i never thought about it that way- thanks!

well i kinda changed my mind- im still VERy mad that shes not writing it (or at least finishing it and posting it on the internet) but midnight sun is AMAZINGLY GOOD!!! its twilight (my fave book in the series) but better!

i feel awful, but now that ive started reading it i cant stop!!! does anyone else feel that way??

and i agree- i like edward much more now. i never knew he cared for bella that much. bellas love is NOTHING compared 2 his!!
and lauren la you're right! it is interesting to hear everyone elses minds too! its like millions of povs in 1 book!! Smile
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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am new at this!

I just wanted to say first of all I loved ALL Twililight Series Books; and not realizing that the excerpt from the next one in line about Edwards' point of view is now been put on the back burner I guess due to a leak to the public! O my god ; please Stephenie ; don't drop your ideas of this. It really sounded like a great idea to see the events unfold from Edward's perspective. I never buy hard cover books by the way; but I have all 4 of the Twilight books. I love them and read them over and over again.



[quote="Ammy"]Wow, I'm also incredibly pissed off. She was still writing the book, for god's sake! You don't just go sending it off to people over the net. It's as moronic as the thought that, "Hey, we deserve to know what she's writing, and if I've got it, why not share it?"

I've heard of books finding their way on the net a day or two before their release, but I've NEVER heard of half an unfinished book being posted up. That's so cruel to the author, who's spending their days writing this. It completely disregards their feelings.

I think that there's going to be a LOT of angry Twilight fans. I didn't ever think I'd say this before, but poor Stephenie. This just isn't fair.[/quote]
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope that she will eventually finish writing it .. it was an interesting read to see Edward's perspective Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:57 am    Post subject: Gutted!!! Reply with quote

I am a HUGE Twilight fan and finished all 4 books in 4days i got sooo absorbed they are a great collection of books.....

Because of this I am Gutted that the follow on book Midnight Sun got leaked by some loser onto the web...this has now spoiled it for all the fans and for poor Steph....I hope that she continues to write because i enjoy the discriptive maner in which she writes and has read all of the books she has written.....

I hope that one day Midnight Sun will be written and i look forward to finally readin all of it!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:47 am    Post subject: when? Reply with quote

its sad that the book got delayed but it got leaked over 2 years ago now, isnt she writing it yet or even started it again?

there is no info anywhere on midnight sun sinse her post over 2 years ago,

plus i think she needs to writ about jacob and renesme and their life, ppplllzzz, lol it cnt end at breaking dawn xx
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh no.. please no..

Renesme.. ruined the books for me.


I feel that once she is out of the hype with these damn movies and well... runs out of money she will get over her temper tantrum and realize that one person shouldn't ruin it for everyone else and write it.
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