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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:00 pm    Post subject: His Dark Materials Reply with quote

I'm besotted. I got the three book anthology for $12, and plowed through the Golden Compass. Lyra just kicks ass. The story doesn't reveal itself to you completely for a long time, but the feel you get for the characters is very...different. I like the fact that it is a parallel universe that is not completely different from ours, because it makes the bad differences frightening and the good ones admirable.

and actually, after reading it, I think they casted the movie really well, even though its apparent they have changed the story.

Its also fun because some of the things in Lyra's world are really obscure theology. Like daemons. The only time I'd heard that before this was in another novel, and in that one a daemon was like...a guardian angel.

and I'm just getting to the meat of the Subtle Knife, but I like it.

So, anyone read them? Like them? Love them? Hate them? Burn them?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I loved them as well!! But I don't understand why they had to change the name for the book from Northen Lights to the Golden Compass (for americans) and now the film's called that?!?!???

But I'm surprisingly excited for the film, normally I hate it when they make books I love into films because they don't do the book justice but the trailer actually looks really good!!

And I loved the Amber Spyglass best out of the trilogy <3 (the third one)
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not there yet, but I really like the Subtle Knife because you see so much more of Pantalaimon's personality. Does he ever settle before the books end?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I think he settles in the last one Smile I love the idea of daemons, I'd love to have one!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just finished the first one and....!! I seriouly missed out in primary school!
Ahwell, they are stillgood books to read now.
I LOVE LOV LOVE the idea of a daemon.
I was so angry and sad at the part in the first book when Lyra is almost seperated from Pan.. I grew attatched to him.
And I like how it doesn't really explain to you what a daemon is to begin with. You kind of figure it out for yourself until it is explained later on.
I don't think I'm making much sense, but this keyboard is frustrating me so I can't type anymore.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i highly recommend listening to the audiobooks. i've read them all, but i've listened to them too...it's done by a full cast and narrated by pullman himself. they might be the best audiobooks i've ever listened to. Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it that everything isn't spelled out for you, as this way you actually have to think about the book and it makes it for a more interesting read Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jane wrote:
i highly recommend listening to the audiobooks. i've read them all, but i've listened to them too...it's done by a full cast and narrated by pullman himself. they might be the best audiobooks i've ever listened to. Razz


I'll have to try that, but then I think I might cry harder. I managed to contain myself at the end of the Amber Spyglass, but if I could actually hear what had gone on, I think it would actually hurt.

I finished them a few weeks ago and my brain is still processing it. There are just SO MANY things and tiny little bits in the books that you don't even realize. I love that in his acknowledgments he says that it's a collection of ideas from other books, it's so humble for someone who wrote something so amazing.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, i cry every time i read or listen to the end of the amber spyglass. it really is a beautiful ending, though...
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EEEEP!!

Damnnn this. I've made a deal with myself to only read one book at a time. And I just borrowed Darkness at Sethanon (sp?) from a friend so I need to read that first, then get to the next two HDM books. But I want to read them now! Its gonna take me forever to read DAS as it is a harder read (for me). As in, I take more time reading it to process things as compared to books like HDM. Damn this Riftwar Trilogy!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its been recommened that i read them but i haven't got around to it yet
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I LOVE those.
The first time I read it was when I was like 9, and I'm STILL addicted.
but.....*squeal* THE MOVIE IS COMING OUT!
I hope they don't mess it up.
but I saw Iorek so I don't care.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually don't think they are going to mess it up too terribly. a couple things are obviously off, but the majority seems to be there. Other than the difficulty of making a detailed world, I don't think it's that hard to translate to film.

I was excited about Iorek as well. He was such a noble character. Although I really want to see if they have daemons.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure they do. In the trailer you saw Pan (i assume it was pan) as a baby tiger or something, then changing into another animal. From what I can remember, anyway.
If they don't have daemons.. um.. how the hell would they make the movie??
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They must have daemons surely, otherwise how are they going to explain everything? It would change the whole plot.
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